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Kim Kardashian Opens Up About Co-Parenting with Ye: “I’ve Never Once Kept the Kids Away”
Los Angeles, CA – Reality television star and beauty mogul Kim Kardashian is setting the record straight, addressing the “narrative” that she prevents her four children from seeing their father, Ye, formerly known as Kanye West. In a candid interview on the “Call Her Daddy” podcast, Kardashian, 44, asserted that she has “never once done that.”
The Oct. 15 episode featured Kardashian discussing the complexities of co-parenting with Ye, her decision to seek a divorce, the last time their children spoke with their father, and her choice to remain silent amidst Ye’s online criticisms.
Kardashian and Ye, who were married from 2014 to 2022, share four children: North, 12, Saint, 9, Chicago, 7, and Psalm, 6.
“What do you think co-parenting with Kanye West is like?” Kardashian posed when host Alex Cooper introduced the topic.
“It’s not easy, but I raise the kids, full time. They live with me, and I welcome a great, healthy relationship with my kids and their dad, and I think he knows that.”
Kardashian emphasized her proactive approach to fostering this relationship. “I push for it all the time, but I also protect them when it’s time for that. And it goes in waves and phases, and it’s a lot of work.”
Regarding the children’s contact with their father, Kardashian revealed, “Whenever he’ll call for them and ask. It’s probably been a couple months since we’ve heard from him.”
She explained that her children are accustomed to Ye’s extensive travels and varying residences. “They always knew that he had a big life traveling before and was always on tour and all of that, and that he lives in different countries all the time and loves to live all over the place.
We manage it really well.”
A representative for Ye was contacted for comment but did not immediately respond.
Kardashian’s primary focus remains her children’s well-being. “They love their life and their routine and their schedule,” she stated. “And I think just the job as their mom is just to make sure that they stick to their routine, and they’re healthy and happy.”
Addressing the persistent speculation about her keeping the children from Ye, Kardashian expressed frustration. “Look, it’s not easy no matter what, co-parenting with anyone.
I think that the one thing that just gets me is that there’s this narrative that I keep the kids away from him,” she said. “I’ve never once done that.”
She continued, “There’s been so many times where I’ve been like, ‘Ah, I just want to show all of these texts. What are you talking about?’
Like, we just haven’t heard (from Ye). I beg them to go hang out or things like that.”
Ye has publicly accused Kardashian of withholding their children, claims she vehemently denies. “It’s more of just the narrative that, like, I think it’s all good and we’re living our life, and then I just wake up and there’s all these tweets about how I’ve kidnapped the kids,” Kardashian explained.
“And I’m like, it’s not a kidnapping, it’s a divorce, you know? We can still all be in each other’s lives and have group dinner.”
Citing her mother, Kris Jenner, Kardashian noted the advice to allow “five years of being divorced” before “everyone can coexist and be friends.”
“Every time he has asked, I will always let them see their father,” Kardashian affirmed. “That’s just who I am.
If there’s a time where it’s just really super unhealthy, I will say, ‘Hey, let’s do it here at my house, or let’s figure out a different time.’ But actually when he is like that, he doesn’t really want to see the kids a lot.”
Kardashian also dispelled notions of restricting travel, confirming that Ye has resided in various countries, including Saudi Arabia, Italy, and Japan, and she has “never once denied” her children visiting him.
“I don’t keep the kids, and I think that all that narrative really sucks for me,” she said. “And if I spoke out about it and rebutted it, I’m just not that girl online that’s going to, like, fight back and be like, ‘Wait a minute, your assistant and you said you wanted a whole different birthday party, and you said your party’s at 4 (o’clock), so we did ours at noon, and now you’re going online saying (something else).’ It’s just a totally different narrative than what the reality is, and that just really sucks.”
Despite Ye’s past derogatory comments about her on social media, Kardashian maintains her silence. “There has been so many times where I’ve written a draft and been like, ‘I’m going to go,’” she shared.
“And then I’m just like, ‘What’s the point? What is the point?
Am I going to go back and forth? My kids are going to see this.’”
“I never say anything negative about my kid’s dad just because it’s out there,” she continued. “Like, the last thing my kids need is for them to hear it from me.
And I never saw my parents talk bad about each other no matter what was going on. I do think that that’s just who I am.
I just don’t want to go there with, like, fighting back, saying negative things, you know?”
She admitted to having moments of wanting to retaliate. “I wish I did last time,” she said. “I had a good post ready to go.”
However, she finds it particularly challenging to remain composed when Ye targets her mother. “That’s what’s really hard for me, because she loves him, and to this day still does and is super emotional about it and sad about it.
It was a big part of our lives,” Kardashian said. She recounted a poignant interaction with her daughter North: “My kids, I say such positive things about their dad that, like, North had to say to me, ‘Mom, I think you go upstairs and, like, cry at night.
Like, it’s OK. It’s time to move on.
You need to have a boyfriend now.’ And I’m like, ‘Wait, what?
What? I cry?
No, I’m getting a massage upstairs. What do you think is happening?’”
Kardashian also shed light on the reasons for her divorce from Ye, citing his negative remarks about her mother and sisters, as well as the public airing of “personal stuff.”
“Just not feeling safe, not even physically, just, like, maybe emotionally or even financially,” she explained. She recalled instances where “We had, like, five Lamborghinis, and I’d come home and they’d all be gone if he was in an episode.
And I’d be like, ‘Oh, wait, where’s all our cars? My new car.’
And it would be like, ‘Oh, he gave them away to all of his friends.’”
“I didn’t know what you’re going to get when you wake up,” she concluded. “And that’s, like, a really unsettling feeling. Lack of stability was a big thing.”
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